they deduct it from their tax liability here. we set that it was no deduction. we signed that as an effort to stop apartheid. and it passed. and i never thought i would ever see nelson mandela. when i saw him and people introduced me, he says, yes, i know him. they were trying to push me, saying he had the wrangle amendment, you know. and he says, oh, no, not the wrangle amendment. i thought, my god, here we go. he says, no, the white south africans call that the bloody wrangle amendment. and he said, i would suggest you get a -- >> there's that sense of humor. >> yes. he was a big giant. he was so warm, like a bear that would hug you and you fell apart no matter who you were or where you were. >> congressman, we have to say thank you for sharing these very personal stories of your time with nelson mandela. donna brazile, thank you as well, john king with wonderful mementos from that time as well. thank you to the three of you for sharing these significant memories you have of a great leader. >> fun to celebrate that life. >> isn